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interesting chemtrails letter from 2003

From: John F. Winston (johnfwin@mlode.com)

Subject: Where The Chemtrail Spray Systems Are Made.

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Date: 2003-02-03 16:36:50 PST

 

Subject: Where The Chemtrail Spray Systems Were Made.   Feb. 3, 2003.

 

  They are still spraying us here is Sonora, Calif.  Here's 

something about that subject.

 

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  From: S

  Subject: Chemtrail Info

  From: B

  As always, I consider it an honor to be able to send you e-mail. 

This e-mail is private mail/post from one sovereign living-soul and

natural-person to another with all of our rights in effect (Canadian

cc-345 & cc-356, and UPU agreements may also apply).  If, at any

time, you wish to no longer receive these private e-mails, simply

reply with "stop" in the subject field.  Thank you.

  DID I GET THAT RIGHT: CANADIANS ADMIT TO HELPING BUILD CHEMTRAIL

SPRAYERS?  AND, HERE IN CANADA?

  WE SHOULD BLESS THOSE THAT COME FORWARD FOR HAVING THE GUTS TO

QUIT WHEN THEY DID AND FOR HAVING THE GUTS TO TELL US ABOUT IT ...

  All it takes to transform this planet is to wake-up enough people.

Do your part with knowledge, truth, facts and wisdom; and even if

just "one drop at a time", the truth will out!  

  Drip....drip....drip....drip...drip...drip..drip..drip.drip!

  From: Bea

  Since I first got this information, I have been in conversation

with C --- and have sent him relevant info.

  I have double checked to make sure that C in this position---his

answer is obvious...

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  B is the person from Ontario who is instigating the petition to

stop chemtrails Canada wide. You can download a petition from:

http://www.holmestead.ca/

  

  G-d Bless

 

  Dear B

  I sent this to B:

  G.Brian.Holmes@sympatico.ca

  http://www.holmestead.ca/

  Dear Brian,

  My name is Conroy Pe-ner. I am an Aircraft Maintenance Engineer

who used to work for Con-ir/C-scade Ae-ospace in Abbotsford, BC,

Canada. In 1988 we had a U-A/N-TO defense contract to build spray

quipment to create "Chemtrails" under "Operation Clov-rleaf". My

brother was the senior weldor/fabricator on the project. He was

threatened and we quit... after I took photos of the finished

product. It's real. These web links should help fill any gaps in

your knowledge. Feel free to contact me. Tell the world NOW!

  C

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  The following is an explanation of Co-roy's situation as forwarded

to me by another source: 

 

  "I would be happy to show anyone the spray system photos I took

before I quit working for Con-ir/Ca-cade Aerospace, or discuss

other related issues."

  Conroy Pe-ner

  

  Regarding "CHEMTRAILS":

  My brother Mu-ray and I used to work for Co-air/Ca-cade Aerospace

in Abbotsford, British Columbia, Canada, back in 1988-89. I was

working for their helicopter division, Frontier Helicopters, when

one day at lunch I overheard my bosses talking to each other about

not being able to find a qualified aerospace welder/fabricator to

build some special equipment for the U-A Air Force. It so happened

that Mur-ay had not worked for a while and was available. He had

worked for Bri-tol Aerospace and Stan-ard Aero repairing both

civilian and mi-itary plane parts and engine parts, and rockets ...,

so he had wonderful qualifications for the job. After they phoned

M-rray they flew him from Winnipeg, Manitoba to their airport and

gave him a job building special spray equipment. I often came into

hanger #1 where he worked, to work and to visit him.

 

  As I watched the progress of his project I became quite curious

and asked him what in the world he was building. He really did not

know the truth at the time, so he asked some of his helpers and

co-workers. One young fellow told Mu-ray he was building a spray

system to deliver biochemical w-rfare.

 >  Murr-y and I talked to each other and to some of our co-workers

about it but still did not know the truth about the project, so

we approached our bosses who said it was to spray for insects at

airforce bases in the US-.

 >  We were not born yesterday, and both had extensive training and

experience with metallurgy, so we knew we were being lied to:

there was no way this expensive alloys and specially-machined

parts were for that, and there was no way that ordinary insect

repellant would damage the nozzles that severely that they would

have to replace them after every 6 uses. Also, the holding,

pressure and surge tanks were so large, and the pumps so huge,

that we also figured out there would be enough spray in one

aircraft to kill every living thing in the entire country with

one pass... yet they had a contract to make 11 entire systems.

 

 >  Murray told the bosses they were involved in something more

deadly than that and that he would not be a part of this ev-l plan,

and after giving them a solemn warning, quit. So did I and some

others, but not before the bosses, and some US milit-ry people

warned us about minding our own business. Mu-ray was told to sign

some documents but refused, even though they pushed him hard to

agree to their scheme and to keep silent. The scene was so intense

you could cut the air with a knife!

 

 >  A few months after Mur-ay warned them they would pay the price

for their deeds..., there was an unexplained fire in Hangar 1, and

they lost their new sheet metal school and nearly lost two

fire-fighting aircraft. One lone nightshift worker was nearly

killed too. We were shocked that Go- would respond that way to

Murr-y's warning so hard and fast, but it seemed perfect for the

situation.

 

  We have made it a point to warn others every day since then about

what they do, but few, if any, listen or even go so far as to

believe us at all.

 >  There is much more to it than just spray: this is a tiny part

of an ev-l plan to ki-l millions and to bring in the New Wo-ld Order.

I have personally studied this subject for about 33 years, and it

is true. I have met politicians and many others who have a

first-hand knowledge of what is happening to change this world to

a global go-ernment and a one wor-d system of mi-itary, rel-gion,

etc. Check the history and plans of the Bil-erbergers, the things

that happen at the Boh-mian Grove, what Operation Ga-den Plot or

Operation Pap-rclip, why the a-my has built new con-entration

camps for us, etc., were all about, or even Lu-is Trust and the

whole issue of the Ill-minati, Ma-ons, Cath-lic Chu-ch and the New

Wor-d Order.

 

 >  The plan is real and the plan is in effect now: the "El-tes"

will take over and get rid of what they refer to as "The Useless

Eaters" of the world. Do not stop looking until you know the whole

truth. It may take a lot of time and work, but I would not trade

the hard work to learn and understand the absolute truth when I

know it could either save me from the coming world ho-ocaust or at

least help me understand what is about to happen to me and my

loved ones. China has control of both sides of the Panama Canal

and occupies a U-A mili-ary base in south California and Cuba for

a reason ... just like Russian soldiers practicing operating our

trains now or the German and British NA-O troops occupying more

mil-tary bunks here than our own soldiers while they practice

bombing us at our mil-tary airbases.

 The Brit-sh Royalty and pre-idents, etc., are all a part of it.

The C-A, F-I,

 >  Royal Can-dian Mounted Police, Scot-and Yard, MI6, MI5, etc.,

Council on Fo-eign Relations, N-TO, are part of it.

 

 >  Learn from history and tell everyone you meet. It's real and

it's coming faster than the electrical waves of and ato-ic

explosion, and we cannot stop it at all. (JW  Let's hope the good

type people will help us out.)  When I watched the a-my fill up

the spray tanks on the planes while wearing hazmat suits and oxygen

tanks, I knew it was not for getting rid of bugs: it was for

getting rid of us. They have over 2,200 Boeing KC-135 Stra-otankers

equipped, and they could cover the earth with spray in one single

day. They spray our skies full here in Canada... in Victoria, etc,

every single day and night. Our blue skies are not left blue

anymore. Breathing sometimes becomes a chore, and people get sick

for no apparent reason too. Hope you respond and hope you are

ready.

 

 >  There is no way out, so pray that -od will deliver you: we

cannot run or hide, but we can be ready when it hits the fan... at

least mentally and sp-ritually. I used to be the world's biggest

skeptic, but now I see that the Bi-le was perfectly accurate:

history, should anyone be open, honest and not entirely blind or

stupid, is unfolding before our eyes precisely as the Bib-e said it

would, and without missing a beat. That should count for something.

Even the woman that rides the beast, as described in the Bi-le

about the end times has come true: Look at the Euro-dollar bills;

the woman, called "Europa" rides "The Bull". It is also on the

Greek Euro-coin.

 >  Check for yourself. Now if that doesn't speak volumes (you

have to study it of course and prove it for yourself like I did),

than you are fast asleep ....or you do not care about all the

facts as they are. Hope you write and ask questions...

 

 >  Sincerely, Conroy P-nner Aircraft Maintenance Engineer conroypen@yahoo.com

 > 1-250-383-3602 303-500 Rithet Avenue, Victoria, BC, Canada

  

  PS: I would be happy to show anyone the spray system photos I

took before I quit working for Co-air/Ca-cade Aerospace, or

discuss other related issues...

  check:

  

  http://www.rense.com/politics6/chemdatapage.html

  http://www.carnicom.com http://www.oneworldorder.org

  http://www.cheniere.org http://www.freepressinternational.com

  http://www.steamshovelpress.com http://www.raven1.net

  http://www.educate-yourself.org, http://www.radarmatrix.com

  http://www.enterprisemission.com http://www.voxnyc.com, www.mt.net

  http://www.datafilter.com

  http://www.texemarrs.com/concentration_camps_in_america.htm

  http://www.greaterthings.com/News.Concentration_Camps/

  http://www.guerrillanews.com, www.home.earthlink.net

  http://www.trunkerton.fsnet.co.uk/Links.htm

  http://www.monsanto.vigil.net, www.outlands.org

  http://www.inforamp.net http://www.drday.com,

  http://www.whatreallyhappened.com http://www.tetrahedron.org

  http://www.guerrillanews.com http://www.rense.com

  http://www.abovetopsecret.com

  http://www.infowars.com

  http://www.hardtruth.topcities.com http://www.equip.org

  http://www.trw.com http://www.asil.org http://www.smdc.army.mil

  http://www.afa.org http://www.icrc.org http://www.softwar.net

  http://www.anomalous-images.com http://www.earthops.org

  http://www.sonic.net/sentinel/gvcon6.htm

  etc.

  

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  There was also another message betwen Con-roy and myself -- more

philosophical/political -- which I won't send as it was a little

long -- but here's my answer ... and while I'm at it -- an

explanation of how I think about all this ...

 Bea

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  You know Co-roy -- I'm a very simple person. In terms of political

philosophy I guess you would call me a utopian anarchist --- that

is, --- I believe that the source of true power is from within --

from our hearts. You can call it -od -- or whatever name you want.

In simple terms it's about using love as a focus.

  When we do that everything else falls into place. In my estimation

that is where we went wrong --- or perhaps we didn't go wrong ---

perhaps this is what it takes to learn this lesson as humanity.

  

  This planet -- Earth -- Mother -- living being that we look upon

as simply an inanimate platform for us to conduct our 'affairs'

on--as simply a place to pretend that we're the ones who order the

universe about-- is just about to say---ENOUGH!

   

  So the way I look at it---those of us who have the sense to

understand that the only way we will survive is to hold together

and love each other had better start doing that. When enough of us

wake up to this--we will become an overwhelming force that will

sweep all else out of the way.

  

  I don't believe in any kind of go-ernment that governs from the

outside--but to be able to accomplish that we must connect to our

power on the inside. So the work, as far as I'm concerned, is to

make our LOVE as powerful as it can be.

  

  Some people call me naive---and I say thank you---it's been one

heck of a battle to stay that way...

  

  Thanks for sending me this material----I understand it.

  There is a fine line between coming together as human beings of

free will (this doesn't mean we all have to be the same--only that

we recognize and honor our right to be who we are----and I do

believe it's time for us to do that) ----- and creating an entity

called a 'g-vernment'--whereby we give up our power to an

artificially created source.

  

  Am I making sense?...

  

  Anyway ...Thank you for your courage in coming forward. I'll

pass your material on to as many people as I can--I hope that's

okay with you. Depending on the 'timeline', myself and some others

want to put together a panel presentation about chemtrails (maybe

more) and I hope you would come over and give us the benefit of

your knowledge. I want to come at it from many different angles--

including health, and ways to protect ourselves,----and more......

  

Thanks again

Bless you for your courage

May the FORCE be with Us!

Peace and Love

 B

 

John Winston.   johnfwin@mlode.com

 

Saturday, October 8, 2022

Dems spending money they dont have

09 January 2002

Dem Senators:
How Can You Spend
What You Do Not Have?

By Al Colombo, publisher
www.GiantKillers.Org

"Daschle did not call for tax increases or a repeal of last year's tax cut. But other leading Democrats have said some tax breaks for corporations and affluent taxpayers might need to be reconsidered."
Judy Keen and Kathy Kiely
07 January 2002
USA Today

So, the Democrat Congressmen wish to treat affluent taxpayers, especially those who own large corporations, differently than they do the common man? This puts me in mind of the following quote, taken from the final words of the Communist Manifesto:

"The proletariat will use its political supremacy to wrest, by degrees, all capital from the bourgeoisie, to centralize all instruments of production in the hands of the state, i.e., of the proletariat organized as the ruling class; and to increase the total of productive forces as rapidly as possible."

iiiI wonder if it has ever occurred to these Congressmen, as well as many among the general public, that companies are leaving the U.S. by the droves. The last thing we need is to further the problem by souring the pot even more. This author is not suggesting that we give them the kitchen sink, and take the toilet too; but what I am suggesting is that we need to provide some incentives to keep what industry we now have and to seduce others to set up shop here.

Folks, this kind of thinking is selfish and self serving at best, certainly unAmerican at its worst! Because less than 2% of the population have a huge amount of money, the kind Congressmen of the Democrat party would have none of us receive a tax cut. Can the Democrat politicians actually be serious when they say that by raising taxes they expect to boost our ailing economy? Can these Congressmen actually be serious about rescuing the economy at all?

iiiMy dear friends, the sad fact is that it causes one to wonder just how patriotic such folks are. It causes this author to wonder which ones among them actually have the enemy's best interests at heart. By gumming up the works at such a critical time, such Congressional politicals are actually aiding and abetting the enemy of freedom and this Democratic Republican form of government.

The bottom line: YOU CANNOT SPEND WHAT YOU DO NOT HAVE. Another way of saying this: YOU CANNOT SPEND WHAT YOU GIVE TO UNCLE SAM.

Now, would someone tell me how eliminating the tax cut or how additional taxes would make our economy any better than what it is now? I can easily see how it would be less better off for such a tax increase.

RUNNING INDUSTRY OUT

iiiI've argued for many years that chasing industry out of country using a combination of incentives would someday come back to bite us in the butts-and that day has arrived. How? Local, county, and state governments are now looking to YOU and I to make up the difference in tax revenue lost by companies moving over seas and down to Mexico. Are you rich? Better hope not because no one will care about you, certainly not the kind Democrat Congressmen who advocate tax increases. How unAmerican!

Through a combination of incentives, companies have been encouraged to set up shop off shore. First, Uncle Sam actually paid them to do this through a variety of programs. Second, we've caused so much havoc environmentally through over regulation that these companies would rather not fight than switch, thus many of them have or are in the process of moving to countries where there are little or no regulations to contend with. Third, if it would have been ratified and made law globally, the Kyoto Protocol would have allowed countries, like China, to slide by, allowing them to operate with very little environmental oversight.

Fourth, the Congress has eliminated the usual tariffs associated with leveling the playing field for stateside companies, thus subjecting them to cut-rate products made in countries where the labor rate is less than a dollar an hour! If you will recall, this author had said in a past commentary that the Timken Co. had told their employees in administration that it costs them in excess of $32.50 an hour to hire labor in the U.S., compared to $1.50 an hour in China? In a word, we have either invited or forced employers to take U.S. jobs overseas and down to Mexico, resulting in the further stagnation of our economy and the loss of extremely important tax revenue.

Now, get ready: YOU and I will pay the bill. I guarantee you, the buck will stop here.

LOCAL INVENTIVENESS IN
RAISING ADDITIONAL REVENUE

iiiLet me give you a good example of local government's dilemma and one county's solution to lost industrial tax revenue (not to mention all the companies that have gone out of business). In xxxxx County, Ohio, alarm companies are now required to take out a permit when they install a simple burglar alarm system. Not only that, it is this author's experience that one inspector required the customer, a doctor, to have a set of blueprints drawn up and stamped by either an Architect or a Professional Engineer (not cheap). The net result was to take a $400 transplant (moving an existing system to another existing facility) and drive the price upward to $1,200.00! In this case, the county realized an application fee of about $85 and a plans examination/permit fee of about $125. The other factor to be noted here as well is that all this time we were unable to install his alarm system, his drug stash went unprotected, which is, I'm almost sure, a violation of federal law.

When I investigated the situation by interviewing alarm dealers across the U.S., I was surprised to find that none of them had yet run into this moneymaking tactic. But, not to worry, for sometime last fall an Int'l code-making body held a seminar in Cincinnati, Ohio where experts taught building officials and life-safety officers how to further their revenue earnings by using this and other tactics. Would you expect anything other of the folks at the global level? If they are to keep local government on line with the new order, they will have to provide them with the tools necessary to make up such revenue lost by evacuating industry. The bottom line, this method of replacing lost tax revenue will eventually make its way across the country. You, too, will be forced to pay higher prices because vendors are forced to pay such ridiculous fees.

Taxes and DeathIn closing, if this were not so serious an issue, this author would probably laugh; but the sad fact is, it will be you and I who make up this difference. Like it or not, the buck will stop here; and you thought NAFTA, GATT, the Global Economy, globalization, and the New Economy were good things-progress no less. You haven't seen anything yet. Perhaps Pat Buchanan is right, and all the wishful and positive thinking in the world won't change it unless each of us get off our lazy butts and take a SERIOUS look around us at all the boarded up stores and vacant industrial plants.

One last thought, please. Robert Rubin, former President Clinton's Treasury secretary, recently said, "Those who created that tax cut…need to repair the damage." In retrospect, isn't is clear by now that we are now reaping the harvest of the last two presidential terms, 1992 through 2000? So many economists have gone on record stating that the current economy is rarely the result of anything that the current administration has done-and this goes for the good things as well as the bad.

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